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Wednesday 31 December 2014

Larry Arnold I would have shot it also!


Larry Arnold
December 30, 2014 at 4:35pm
This is different, but I would have shot it also!http://www.opposingviews.com/…/fbi-agent-shoots-kills-dog-m…
Family’s Day At The Park Takes A Sad Turn When Dog Comes Across FBI Agent (Photos)
“An FBI Agent who happened to be nearby…”
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  • Wayne Webb Another great,great dane. Good riddance.
    December 30, 2014 at 7:05pm · Like
  • Eve Sylvie Great Dane Kennel Club needs to look into some of the breeders.
    December 30, 2014 at 10:27pm · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell According to one news report, the Great Dane pulled the owner down in order to attack the other dog. If your dog is so out of control that it pulls you down and attacks, it is justifiable when someone has to use deadly force to stop it. I'm glad this dog is no longer owned by someone who can't control it. The next attack could have been much worse. What in the Hell was she thinking when she bought a dog like this at her age and what was the breeder thinking when they sold it to her? 

    My opinion is that all dogs, especially large breed dogs (all mastiffs including Great Danes) should have regulations set according to the rates of DBF and public shelter populations.
    December 30, 2014 at 10:57pm · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell Hahaha! I have lost my cool with all these dangerous dog apologist. I never say " shut up" and I just told someone on this thread link to "Shut up with that Gentle Giant crap".
    Yesterday at 10:48am · Like · 1
  • Jennie Conway Seriously, why do people get large dogs that can't possibly handle? A 180 lb. Dog is inappropriate. How can anyone control an animal that strong and large. Even a well trained dog will occasionally disobey. Then what do you do when it is to large to control? A child and a 180lb. Dane..... Who in there right mind could expect to control that situation!
    Yesterday at 12:20pm · Edited · Like · 3
  • Christy Cornell Any dog over 25 pounds is gonna be hard for most women to control if it gets enraged and doesn't listen to the owner. That's why it is so important for large dog owners to be held to a higher standard of responsibility.

    I have successfully controlled 
    misbehaving horses on leads, never had one break free or drag me down, but, I STILL couldn't stop a 150+ spayed female Great Dane (ON LEASH) from attacking MY OWN Great Dane. My poor dog was basically a sitting duck because I had put her in down-stay and this dog (neighbor's dog) I was trying to help caught me in an unbalanced moment and proceeded to drag me across the yard in order to attack my own dog. What I learned that day was that any control I thought I had on a big dog was basically MENTAL control. I also learned that day I would never risk my dog's ( or my family's) safety again in order to help out a large dog owner who couldn't control their own dog. I realized that if I didn't bond with them and train them well while they were young, it was likely they wouldn't be easily controlled by me in a stressful situation. I had actually rescued adult Great Danes in the past, and had good luck with it, but after seeing how out of control a big dog like that could be, I decided against ever taking a chance on an adult dog again. Only puppies. After it almost killed my Great Dane and continued to be horse aggressive, I told that neighbor she needed to PTS, but she refused. She finally found a last chance Great Dane rescue group to take the dog. Supposedly to be kept by a lady as an only dog, no other pets, no children, no access to stock. The rules for that rescue were that after the owner surrenders a Great Dane, they aren't allowed to know anything else about it and they aren't to contact the rescue ever again. It was like that dog just disappeared off the face of the earth, so I wonder if at that rescue, they give their best try to rehab, but then PTS any dogs which don't respond. If not, I won't be surprised if I see that dog in the news one day. It never turned on me, it was mostly animal aggressive, but there was a moment during breaking up that fight which I knew it was thinking about it.
    Yesterday at 1:35pm · Like · 2
  • Julia Dolan Green All of these things are why it's important that the giant breeds have sweet temperaments.

    Most women can't control a 25-pound dog? I would beg to differ. Lots of women could. 25 pounds is nothing to me 
    23 hrs · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell Agreed that it is a must for giant breeds to have sweet temperaments. So much agreed! 
    9 hrs · Edited · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell Julia Dolan Green Maybe I should have added some sort of caveat about it being if the dog went berserk and/or the woman owner's normal control over it wasn't working. I can agree that women can certainly handle large dogs, but it is the mental control they already have over the dog which allows for it. I could say the same thing for men. I didn't mean to imply women can't successfully own large dogs  

    Have you ever had a 25lb dog ( that you did NOT own for the majority of its life or that you didn't raise) really get aggressive with you? I have. It was a small bully looking stray that came on my property and started causing trouble, chasing my horse. It wasn't particularly aggressive with me, so I was able to leash it and started to take it away from the pasture. Was gonna turn it over to animal control. It went willingly at first, but when I almost was at the gate, it started fighting the "leash" ( a doubled hay string from a heavy alfalfa bale), panicked and then went after me. It took everything I had to keep that dog from actually getting me and if there had been other people close by, I very much doubt I could have prevented them from getting bitten just because I was having to concentrate so hard on keeping the dog off me. I had to use my horse trailer door to block the dog. Small to medium sized dogs are able to turn, twist and writhe really quickly, quicker than I've seen my large dogs do. Keeping hold of that dog felt like having two dogs on the leash going in separate directions at the same time. Animal strength compared to a normal human strength is so much stronger size for size. I read somewhere that you should multiply a dog's weight times three if you are comparing it to the strength of a human and I don't doubt it. Add teeth to that equation and controlling a 25 pound dog on a string is like controlling a 75 pound person who is quick, wants to bite you and isn't holding anything back in their attempt to do so. If I had raised that dog or even had it and trained it long term, I think there might have been some hesitation or some small bit of mental control with me over it, but that dog was not holding back one bit, not the entire time I spent getting it under control. I was just lucky the distance wasn't further and there were things like fence posts and trailer doors to use along with that "leash". I had heavy leather Red Wing work boots on and ended up having to kick that dog off me when I was getting it into the trailer. All I know was it was different with that dog. It acted like a caught wild animal. I have never had one of my personal dogs act berserk like that. Personally, I think controlling a dog is mostly mental once they get to a certain weight. I am just guesstimating that stray's weight because we never actually weighed it, so maybe it was over 25 lbs.
    9 hrs · Edited · Like
  • Anthony Michael Ridge R.I.P. Scooby Doo 04-23-2014 best gentle giant ever, this was after my Fiancee's 1st Chemo Therapy.
    9 hrs · Like · 1
  • Anthony Michael Ridge he loved and respected her when she told him a command, and he was my dog! lol but he stuck to her lick glue
    9 hrs · Like
  • Wayne Webb It's wonderful that everyone loves their "Marmadukes", as long as they don't get near me, we're good. I prefer my sheep,. thanks. 
    9 hrs · Like
  • Elizabeth Honce Dobermans have undergone a breeding program, and like the English bulldog, have Mellowed, keeping the good traits.Pitts need a similar program and stop being overbred. Causes much much suffering to man and beast.
    8 hrs · Like · 1
  • Elizabeth Honce One has to remember that pinscher means biter. Just what it says.
    8 hrs · Like · 2
  • Julia Dolan Green Christy I didn't think you meant fighting off a 25-pound dog, I thought you mean being able to hold one back on lead.
    8 hrs · Edited · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell It was holding it back, holding it off all rolled into one. Lol! Believe me, there were moments I wanted to let go of that lead. I thought about it, considering if I just let go the dog might choose to run away, never to be seen again, but I knew there was a chance it would still come after me, so I figured I, at very least, could hold some control over it with the "leash". I was a little nervous about what was going on, but having been so comfortable around dogs large and small, I never panicked. In the back of my mind I was kinda nervous that someone (maybe the owner) would witness what was happening and mistakenly think I was abusing the dog. This all happened back before I ever even knew that a dog seriously mauling someone wasn't just a fluke. I don't think that dog would have been able to maul me, but I do think it was a very iffy situation for me to keep it leashed. Someone watching probably wouldn't have describe me as being in control of that dog. LOL!
    7 hrs · Like
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